Okay recently there have been a lot of questions along the lines of why do you twihaters pick on us... yadda yadda yadda. Oftentimes the asker states that none of us have even read the book then ask to be left alone.
Is anyone else seeing a bit of irony in this? Being a bored college kid, I actually take my time to read some of the posts on here. Oftentimes the people who don't like Twilight are the ones who actually explain why they don't. ';Twilight is a boring read because I feel asleep reading it'; ';Bella is a weak character whose narration is whinny and unappealing'; ';There is no character development; Bella and Edward remain stagnate'; ';Bella is spoiled and in the end gets everything she wants. Where's the plot in that, it just doesn't work out that way'; Heck many people even note the fact that its not the books but the fanatics that are being bashed. I've also notice that nearly all of the time the answer that usually gets picked as best are along the lines of ';I know; they are so mean';
On the verse side when is see people explaining why it is the best book ever written its usually something like ';because edward is hot'; ';because of the romance'; ';because of the great writing'; The answers tend to be vaguer and less...well convincing.
The other thing I am noticing is many people who are use to this board are stuck typing don't suggest twilight for book reccomendations even with subjects such as ';suggest some good non-fiction'; and ';what's a book like angels and demons'; and still it rarely fails that twilight is among the answers.
In the end I am left with a set of questions
-Why do Twilighters always assume that people who give a negative review of the book or are fustrated with the endless twilight postings automatically assume that they haven't read the book?
-Why can I never get a full answer as to the redeaming qualities of Twilight? (ie why twilight is a good literary work)
-Do those who are merclessly labeled ';twihaters'; really out number twilighters on this board?
-Even I admit that the searchbar doesn't work the greatest but why do we keep seeing ';when is MS going to be released';?
-Why do people ask for opinions on the book and then get upset when they read a negative post?
-Why are people labeled twilhaters for making even one negative statement about the book?
-Why do people keep suggesting twilight to people who obviously aren't interested in it?
-What is the most original Twilight question you have seen asked recently? (okay I'm mixing things up with a poll question).
I know this post favors more toward those who dislike the books because of my own biases, but I'm interested in answers from both sides.To Bash or Not to Bash That is the Question- A musing (or rant) on Twilight?
All the twilight lovers love Twilight because there is something appealing and magical about vampires, Edward is basically the perfect man, and many girls wish they were in Bella's position. It is romantic and different from the usual guy description of ';yeah I'm hot and I wanna bang every chick I can';, Edward is sensitive and the girls thrive on that. It has action to balance out the mushy romance part, and its exciting to read because its obviously not what happens in everyday life because it has super attractive, mythical creatures battling it out. It also IS very well written, I doubt a poorly written book even with the Twilight characters and plot line would be successful. The author is able to make a connection with Bella and the readers. In conclusion, no matter how much you question it, Twilight is the craze and hype right now and people are anxious for MS to come out and they want other people to enjoy Twilight too, even though some may be more aggressive about it. Everyone has their own opinions, so everyone just needs to shut their mouths and respect each others thoughts and opinions. Theres no need to shove the Twilight series down someone's throat, and theres no need to make a fool out of yourself by trash talking a popular book because THEN YOU ARE ASKING FOR TROUBLE. And don't generalize Twilight fans, not all of the thousands of fans are out on the internet having virtual fights and arguments with people who don't like Twilight. Its not like the book turns you into a obsessed monster who is programmed to help make the book take over the world. Thats just some peoples PERSONALITIES. But yeah, people need to chill out on OMG YOU DON'T LIKE TWILIGHT? DIEEE, and the WTF TWILIGHT IS THE STUPIDEST BOOK EVER, YOU PEOPLE ARE OUT OF YOUR FREAKING MINDS. Quite frankly ITS ANNOYING.To Bash or Not to Bash That is the Question- A musing (or rant) on Twilight?
I stopped reading after yadda yadda yadda are you from 10 years ago?
';Why can I never get a full answer as to the redeaming qualities of Twilight? (ie why twilight is a good literary work)';
The writing is quite simple, but Hemingway was a simple writer as well. The outstanding quality for Twilight is that the story is so emotional. Both main characters-- Edward and Bella-- are awash in overwrought emotions.
So the book is emotionally satisfying. Bella is obsessed with Edward. Edward, while appearing aloof at first, is obsessed with Bella. There is a symmetry there that is satisfying.
****spoilers ahead*****
Even at the end of Twilight when Edward refuses to turn Bella into a vampire....... it's part of his obsession.... just like Bella is desperate to become a vampire....... it's like.... the absolute obsession is taken to it's absolute conclusion. And that's gratifying as a reader. It's really a gothic romance about extremism.
And....... one of the best things about Twilight is that it inspires so many people-- including me-- to write down their romantic dreams in novel form. (Although for me, I'm not writing about vampires.) I think the fact that it inspires so many people is a good thing.
Hi there,
-Why do Twilighters always assume that people who give a negative review of the book or are fustrated with the endless twilight postings automatically assume that they haven't read the book?
They cannot imagine that anyone who has read it could dislike it, because they love it so much. That shows a lack of consideration and empathy.
-Why can I never get a full answer as to the redeaming qualities of Twilight? (ie why twilight is a good literary work)
Because the people who DO think it's good have not learnt enough yet to say why. Many of them have only read four books in their lives, i.e. Twilight and all its sequels, and therefore, naturally they think it's good.
-Do those who are merclessly labeled ';twihaters'; really out number twilighters on this board?
I have wondered about this myself. I think we are more persistent - the Twilighters mostly post a few questions, get ranted at, and leave YA for good, I suppose.
-Even I admit that the searchbar doesn't work the greatest but why do we keep seeing ';when is MS going to be released';?
Hmm. Well, you know, since Bella Swan, being retarded has become fashionable...
-Why do people ask for opinions on the book and then get upset when they read a negative post?
GOOD QUESTION.
-Why are people labeled twilhaters for making even one negative statement about the book?
It's the same with any fundamentalist religion or dictatorship out there. Either you love it with all you being, repeatedly say so, and try to convince others (by being very, very annoying), or you are no true fan.
-Why do people keep suggesting twilight to people who obviously aren't interested in it?
As I said... Being stupid is chic.
-What is the most original Twilight question you have seen asked recently? (okay I'm mixing things up with a poll question).
I doubt I've ever seen any.
Cheers
S
The one thing I hated about twilight was that there was no build up for their romance it was just like okay I love you because you want to bite me! lol SM should have done something that would have made that part a bit better
As far as likers and dislikers' justifications go, I think looking at the demographic of the fanbase is a big reason. The book/movie are marketed toward teens for the most part and teenagers aren't known for their poignant introspection and literary criticism, so yea, most of their reasons are ';because Edward is hot';. You don't see many adults going nuts for Twilight, like a lot did for HP, because the books really aren't written very well. It's garbage with an intriguing hook.
ok, here is just my opinion. i don't actually have answers for you, but, I LOVE TWILIGHT %26amp; so do a lot of my friends, including like an entire adult sunday school class (well the women anyway). i don't read books for literary reasons, just for fun. as far as age related opinions, i know of a jr. high class who was assigned to read it %26amp; loved it plus the sunday school class mentioned above.
f.) it's a mark of maturity to be able to fairly answer a question about something you don't like
Very, very true.
-Why do Twilighters always assume that people who give a negative review of the book or are fustrated with the endless twilight postings automatically assume that they haven't read the book?
What's it called... ostriches in the sand? Pretend they didn't read it so their opinions don't count so no one hates Twilight so the world is fine.
The thing is, some people truly have not read the books, so the fans nitpick and apply it to everyone.
-Why can I never get a full answer as to the redeaming qualities of Twilight? (ie why twilight is a good literary work)
Because there are none =.=
Ok, though I dislike it, I will try...
1) It's easy to read.
2) Escapist self insert fantasy to spend a boring afternoon
3) Learn new vocab words! Though they're used in weird places.
-Do those who are merclessly labeled ';twihaters'; really out number twilighters on this board?
Don't know. Probably. Hopefully!
-Even I admit that the searchbar doesn't work the greatest but why do we keep seeing ';when is MS going to be released';?
Choose one:
a) people are dumb
b) people are lazy
c) people want to give other people free points
-Why do people ask for opinions on the book and then get upset when they read a negative post?
They're already skewed in favor of Twilight. They just want positive reviews to reinforce that. Sort of like living in bliss then getting upset when something bursts your bubble.
-Why are people labeled twilhaters for making even one negative statement about the book?
Why are people labeled twihards for making one positive statement about the book? Labels happen. Over time, they cease to have meaning.
-Why do people keep suggesting twilight to people who obviously aren't interested in it?
Choose one:
a) free points
b) truly have not read anything else
c) thought are consumed by Twilight
d) Twilightitis. This disease causes anything associated with the series to trigger off happy feelings and thoughts of pure Twilight, for example, that apple yonder, show it to someone infected with Twilightitis and they will scream ';ZOMG IT'S APPLE LIKE SHOWS FORBIDDEN LOVE AND STUFF';. Show them a book and you get ';ZOMG TIS BOOK LIKE TWILIGHT IS BOOK SO BOOK = TWILIGHT';
-What is the most original Twilight question you have seen asked recently? (okay I'm mixing things up with a poll question).
Hehe, a weird one about vampire farts that I tried to answer scientifically.
Man, your COLLEGE offered courses where TWILIGHT was required reading? Even my high school doesn't do that! (nothing against you, of course)
-Why do Twilighters always assume that people who give a negative review of the book or are fustrated with the endless twilight postings automatically assume that they haven't read the book?
Because they just don't want to believe that someone can honestly not like the book.
-Why can I never get a full answer as to the redeaming qualities of Twilight? (ie why twilight is a good literary work)
Because the are none.
-Do those who are merclessly labeled ';twihaters'; really out number twilighters on this board?
I hope so.
-Even I admit that the searchbar doesn't work the greatest but why do we keep seeing ';when is MS going to be released';?
Either they really have nothing better to do or they live to annoy us, take your pick.
-Why do people ask for opinions on the book and then get upset when they read a negative post?
Because they want everyone to think exactly like they do.
-Why are people labeled twilhaters for making even one negative statement about the book?
Because ';LYK OMG how can u dis twilight? It's LYK d bes buk eva. Stph Myr is a genus.';
-Why do people keep suggesting twilight to people who obviously aren't interested in it?
Because it's the only book they've ever read so it's the only one they CAN suggest.
-What is the most original Twilight question you have seen asked recently? (okay I'm mixing things up with a poll question).
Is there such a thing as an original Twilight question?
Haha...I saw a question like that, where someone asked for a NON-FICTION book and someone told them to read Twilight. And I've also seen someone post a question saying, ';I have already read twilight, so don't suggest it'; or ';I'm not interested in teen fiction like Twilight, so don't suggest it,'; yet people still say to read Twilight. It is quite stupid actually.
In my opinion Twilight is a really good series. (No I'm not dissing it) but I think that some people go wayyyyyyy to overboard on the fandom train, yes I read the books, hoping to see the movie, but no I'm not going to act like the biggest fan on Earth over one series. And yes I do think that Stepanie Mayer is an awesome writer!!!!! My last point is.... If anyone has even fricking seen the fourth Harry Potter movie you would know that the actor that played Edward Cullen in the movie also played Cedric Diggory in 'the Goblet of Fire'. (Sorry just had to make that point.)
-Why do Twilighters always assume that people who give a negative review of the book or are fustrated with the endless twilight postings automatically assume that they haven't read the book?
------- Some people can't believe people can even hate a book like Twilight, I agree that is might be annoying to some people if people just rant on their questions but seriously, I have read the wholeentire Twilight series and I can honestly say there is nothing special about it to be.
-Why can I never get a full answer as to the redeaming qualities of Twilight? (ie why twilight is a good literary work)
------ Because Twilight is NOT a piece of literary work, some people can go through the book with a red pen correcting all of her mistakes.
-Do those who are merclessly labeled ';twihaters'; really out number twilighters on this board?
-----I think there are a lot of Twihaters, they just keep quiet. On YA I think there are more Twilighters.
-Even I admit that the searchbar doesn't work the greatest but why do we keep seeing ';when is MS going to be released';?
----Midnight Sun is Twilight in Edward's point of view and we keep on seeing it because some people are allergic to using asearch engine.
-Why do people ask for opinions on the book and then get upset when they read a negative post?
-----I dunno....
-Why are people labeled twilhaters for making even one negative statement about the book?
------Some people just can't understand that it is even possible for people (like me) to dislike Twilight.
-Why do people keep suggesting twilight to people who obviously aren't interested in it?
-------Because some people are truly obsessed and want to support their fandom
-What is the most original Twilight question you have seen asked recently?
------- Not much, they are usually the same question repeated.
*Sorry for the lame answers!*
someone asked a while ago 'how far back has stephenie meyer sent feminism' that was a good question.
personally i hate twlight. it's badly written, boring, and a terrible example to women. it actually alarms me the opiniosn that meyer seems to have about relationships. it's unhealthy.
i also hate that most of the questions are the same, and that no one likes to hear bad things. it's a public question, so why do they ask if they don't want to know.
i am personally very pleased to be considered a twihater. i think i will eve get a teeshirt with it one it.
It is a sign of immaturity to become obsessed with something (i.e. movie/book) that has little literary value based on hormones.
That said, the obvious answer to all of the questions is that these people are 14 and probably still sleep with a night light.
I've read 'Twilight' and intend to read the rest of the series simply because I started it and might as well finish.
It's entertaining enough and I can see what draws teenaged girls to it, but that's about it.
My ';twihate'; is specifically directed @ the people who incessantly bring it up as if there is no other subject on Earth to discuss.
The way I see it, I only have so much time in my life and none of it is reserved for obsessive, repetitive, immature rantings about a book that is mediochre at best.
Thank you for speaking for the rest of us so eloquently. (=
Not that it will make a damn bit of difference.
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